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Taking a Bite Outta Guy Fieri's Hot Wieners

In honor of Guy Fieri's visit this Tuesday, June 7, with his Guy Fieri Road Show, I dug through the Food Network Top 100 Guy Fieri recipes and found a gem from Guy's Big Bite: Hot Wieners Rhode Island Style.



Now, to us non-Rhode Islanders (or would it be non-Rhodies?) the recipe reads a lot like a plain ol' chili dog. Well, actually a lazy man's chili dog, since the spiced meat in question cooks in a half-hour on the stove rather than the hours most traditional chilis take. But with the help of fellow blogger Jonathan McNamara, The Virgin devised an ingenious plan to kick things up a notch: wrap the dog in bacon and then cover it with chili. Sort of a "Rhode Island meets Sonoran" dog.


Find out how it's done after the jump.

If you thought Cooking Virgin was going to attempt to make hot dogs from scratch, 1. my cooking skills aren't that impressive yet and 2. the pictures involved would probably make you lose your lunch, rather than enticing you to make it. Plus, if Guy Fieri's getting paid big bucks to cook and eat on national television and his prep cooks aren't he isn't making his own wieners, I'm sure as hell not going to sift through cow/pig/mystery meat parts.

Note: My recipe is 1/4 the size of Guy's, as I didn't have the need to feed 20 people. But it still worked...sort of. Here are The Virgin's DeStructions, loosely based on Guy's recipe:
1. To start, mince 2 tbsp of onions and place in a pan with 1 tablespoon of butter. Heat over medium until onions are clear-ish. Frankly, mine were still a little opaque, but the original recipe warns not to brown them and I was a little worried.

2. Add 1/2 tbsp each paprika and chili powder, plus a pinch of dry mustard, cinnamon, allspice and curry and stir. What apparently results from using such a small amount of ingredients is a congealed blackish brown lump studded with onions. Yum.

Don't worry, it gets better.

3. Stir in 1/4 lb. ground beef (Guy recommends 80/20; I used a slightly leaner 85/15 since I planned on getting a hefty dose of fat from the addition of bacon) and brown over medium heat for five minutes
4. Add 1/4 cup water, stir everything around, and simmer over low heat for 30 minutes until it becomes a better looking chili-esque meat mixture. Breathe a sigh of relief.

5. In the meantime, brown 5 strips of bacon until cooked but still slightly soft, in a small saute pan. 

6. Add 6 hot dogs to a pot of salted boiling water and boil 7 minutes until cooked through. Guy says to steam the buns over the water, so I grabbed a handy rack from my toaster oven and set premade hot dog rolls on top.

7. Wrap the dog in bacon, top with chili, mustard, onions and celery salt and tasty cheddar cheese (which goes so much better with bacon).

Sources & Links Related to RI Hot Weiners

Rhode Island's Hot Weiners (or Hot Wieners) Diner Hotline Weblog

Visiting little Rhody? Find New York System Hot Weiner addresses here...


If you're planning a cookout for this most patriotic of days, here's an opportunity to celebrate the American dream. Because hot dog culture is American history.


Hot wieners "all the way" Origin Alternative name(s) New York System wiener, gagger, weenie Place of origin United States Providence, Rhode Island


The Stevens family has been serving Rhode Island's own culinary favorite, hot wieners since 1946. Our famous delicacy starts with a natural-casing wiener and is topped with mustard, our special meat sauce, onion, celery salt and all served on a steamed bun. We also feature o


Coffee milk is a drink similar to chocolate milk; however, instead of chocolate syrup, coffee syrup is used. It is the official state drink of Rhode Island in the United States of America.


NY System Hot Weiners "All-the-Way" Ever had a hot weiner? If you have, you'll know that Rhode Island's New York System's hot weiner sauce is made from a top...


The Olneyville NY System has been using this recipe since 1946, (when they moved here from NY, hence the name) and there's nothing else like it anywhere! Each package of spice mix makes three 1lb. servings.




Holes-In-The-Wall

If you ever go to a PawSox night game, a trip to Olneyville New York System is a must. One of Rhode Island’s most famous hole-in-the-walls features Hot Wieners: an Ocean State specialty. If you go to Olneyville and order a hot dog, they won’t know what you’re talking about. In fact, they’ll probably bust your chops. It may be embarrassing to order a hot wiener, but the dish itself is worth any brief humiliation you may suffer.
The NY System is a Weiner smothered in hot mustard, celery salt, chili, and onions. Messy, greasy, heavy, absolute bliss. The perfect meal after having a few drinks at McCoy Stadium or hitting up the bars in Providence.
Hot wieners aren’t the only state specialty available at Olneyville NY System. Coffee Milk (the official state beverage of Rhode Island) is proudly served, and the perfect beverage to accompany your meal. A good preventative measure before partaking in any of these Rhode Island delicacies is to take a Prilosec. You don’t want to be tasting chili dogs and coffee milk on your ride back home, if you catch my drift.
The inside of Olneyville is a typical late night diner, a perfect hole-in-the-wall, but a relatively famous one. Olneyville has three locations in Rhode Island, but as is most restaurants, the original is still the best. Olneyville NY System is a ‘can’t miss’ restaurant for anyone visiting Rhode Island.
Olneyville NY System: Providence, RI: A Rhode Island tradition, the Hot Wiener is a grilled beef, pork and veal natural casing wiener served "all the way" on a steamed bun covered in meat sauce (don't even think of calling it "chili") with onions, mustard and celery salt. Then washed down with sweet coffee milk, another Rhode Island original.
There are dozens of different stands with the words "NY System" and "Hot Wiener" in the Providence area, but Olneyville is considered one of the best, where cooks line 10 or 20 dogs "up the arm" dressing them with mustard and sauce at a lightning pace.
Olneyville NY System: 18 Plainfield St, Providence RI;


Top Wieners

By WJamesWood32 in USA
May 16, 2011
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Do you love hot wieners? What a dumb question, of course you do! What about the best hot wieners in all of Rhode Island? Hey, you! That’s enough! Wipe that drool off the floor this minute—have some class! We all know how much you love hot wieners, so never fear. We here at Let's Go love hot wieners, too. So, as always, we've got you covered on your wiener-hunt through Providence. But do us a favor: don’t call them hot dogs. Never. Ever. Ever. You can call them wieners and you can call them “gaggers”—so of course, you should call them gaggers (pronounced "gaggahs")—but you absolutely cannot call them hot dogs. No excuses. Now that that’s out of the way, here we are: the three best wieners in Providence!

1.
Olneyville N.Y. System – “R.I.’s Best Hot Wieners” is their slogan, and they aren’t kidding. Even though Olneyville is about a five minute bus ride from downtown, the wieners are absolutely irresistible. The quality of the wieners coupled with the unbeatable price (less than two dollars per wiener, but let’s be real: no one’s going home after eating just one) puts Olneyville’s pride and joy at the top of the wiener charts for Providence. Order up two or three wieners—despite being “gaggers,” they really aren’t that big—topped with the “special” wiener sauce and mysterious chili-onion-like substance, a plate of fries, and a large coffee-milk and dig in. Wieners don’t get hotter (or better) than this. It might have a New York name, but this baby is all Rhode Island.
Traveler’s tip: It’s marketed as “hangover food” and the place stays open almost until dawn, but go earlier. Some travellers report that Olneyville is not a place you want to be past midnight.


2. Haven Brothers Diner — Imagine a diner, then put that diner on wheels, and then put that diner-on-wheels at the intersection of Dorance and Fulton Streets for over two hundred years. And there you have it, folks: Havens Brothers. Everything that was said for the Olneyville “gagger” can be applied here, except the wieners are a little more expensive, but the price is easily surmounted by the diner’s location in the middle of downtown. All in all, one of the neatest places I’ve been—Haven Brothers is the only place that you can order “in” and still eat in a car.


3. Modern Diner — This diner is technically in Pawtucket, R.I., just ten or twenty minutes outside of Providence. But if you’re a diner junky, you can’t pass this one up. It's the first diner in American history, and their hotdogs are still remarkably fresh. Shoot, I said hotdogs! Their wieners I mean, and they're are delicious. If you get a chance to head north to Pawtucket, these wieners are the only real attraction, so you’ll probably end up at Modern whether you want to or not.



Here's how they make NY System Hot Weiners:

You would walk in and take a seat on a stool at the counter, to order you say something like, "Twelve "all duh way.". And then you sit and watch an amazing single hand assembly. First the steamed buns are skillfully lined up duh ahm from finger tips to elbow, and with swiftness a Rhode Island hot weiner is placed inside each bun.
Next came the stick, mustard was quickly slapped onto each weiner. Then, the top came off the steaming secret meat sauce the mini ladle was filled and meat sauce was spread over each weiner, the ladle went down and the lid was replaced. If you ordered your weiners "all duh way" finely chopped raw onions were dropped on each one by spoonfuls and celery powder was sprinkled over from elbow to finger tip.
Hot Weiners to go
The weiners were removed, usually by twos and placed on wax paper that was laid out and waiting. With quickness and precision the steaming hot weiners were wrapped in the wax paper, and almost instantly a brown paper bag was shook opened and the hot weiners wrapped in waxed paper disappeared into the bag.
You could order your hot weiners "all duh way" or "wid out duh onions." If you ate at the diner you always had a nice big glass of cold coffee milk.
When you ordered your hot weiners to-go (which we normally did) by the time you got home the paper bag was nice and greasy, you poured a glass of milk added some coffee syrup and devoured your hot weiners in three to four bites.
Tip: Never call a New York System Hot Weiner a Hot Dog
Interesting info about RI Hot Weiners
RI hot weiners have nicknames, such as gaggers (gaggahs), belly busters, weeners, and weenies
It's "E before I" when you spell NY System Hot Weiners
Don't call them hot dogs they are hot weiners
The secret meat sauce is a Greek immigrant recipe; it's greasy and a little runny
The drink of choice when eating RI hot weiners is coffee milk
Rhode Islanders speak with a unique accent; Up the arm - Up d'ahm; Three - Tree; Coffee - cawfee; car -cah

Hot Weiner Spots in Rhode Island

The RI hot weiner is unique in a few ways, its taste, its name, its size, its meat sauce, its nicknames, the way it's put together or assembled, the type weiner and the fact that it originated in the smallest state in the United States of America, Rhode Island.

I'm a rather picky eater, but there are a few foods that are favorites and the NY System Hot Weiner is on my list. To simply say they taste good would be an understatement because it's everything about hot weiners that appeals to me. The size is great, not too big and filling. The meat sauce is spicy and goes great with the finely chopped onions. The buns are soft and small like the weiner. Watching how they are made is interesting and builds up your appetite for that first bite. The wax paper and paper bag is soaked and greasy by the time you get home. And the combination of a cold glass of coffee milk and hot weiners is amazing.

A Rhode Island weiner is made with veal and pork not beef, and it has a reddish color. Originally it did not come in links. The weiner was long and would be cut into 4 inch pieces, that is how it got its distinctive flat ends, but today they are made in links. The buns are steamed and hot when served. To topping of an all the way NY System weiner has mustard, the secret meat sauce, chopped raw onions and is sprinkled with celery powder.

Rhode Island Hot Weiners

Why are they called New York System Hot Weiners

The origin of NY System Hot Weiners started as far back as 1927, some say even further back to 1915. Greek immigrants who landed at Ellis Island and lived in Brooklyn's Coney Island area later headed north and relocated up in Rhode Island. It is said that they opened up eateries and named their specialty weiners New York System Hot Weiner because of how popular New York was, they believed using New York in the name of their product would be an advantage when it came to marketing. However, over the years many businesses have opened that serve NY System hot weiners. Whether or not they all serve the original "secret meat sauce" is unclear.

One article found, it's written by a Christopher Martin and based on
his research of the origin of the famous RI hot weiner he states in part, "...I talked with the owners...scoured microfilmed newspapers for articles and obituaries...and turned to old Providence city directories."

The Providence City Directory is an accurate list of residents with addresses, their occupations or businesses. It has been published annually since around the 1900s, so Christopher's research is pretty thorough and may have narrowed down which business was the first to open.

Many would agree that nothing matters except preserving that unique flavor and style of a NY System Hot Weiner. You really have to take one bite to understand why the Rhode Island weiner is so tasty.