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NY System Hot Wiener is not just a hot dog, but a taste of RI

 

 

 NY System Hot Wiener is not just a hot dog, but a taste of RI

Gail CiampaJennifer Borresen

Providence Journal

 

            New York System Hot Wieners are a famous regional food specific to Rhode Island, not New York.

            It is typically ordered "all the way" with mustard, meat sauce, chopped onions, and celery salt.

            The "New York System" name originated as a tribute to New York City by a Greek immigrant founder.

New York System Hot Wieners are local to Rhode Island, not New York, and they are not hot dogs.

That may confuse those who didn't grow up eating hot wieners. But it makes perfect sense to those who did. No frank in Rhode Island is more famous or craved than the hot wiener. It tells a story of the history of Rhode Island.

There's even a James Beard Foundation American Classic medallion from 2014 to prove it.

But awards are not why the hot wiener is iconic.

It's a taste of home and one that holds a lot of memories.

That's why a hungry R.I. National Guard unit stationed in Iraq sent a photo to a Providence New York System joint asking for hot wieners for 120. It's what brought a bride, her groom and wedding party to show up at Olneyville New York System at 2 a.m., still dressed in their gowns and tuxes.

What is a New York System dog?

Hot wiener dogs are a mix of smoked pork, beef and veal. Traditionally, they start in a natural casing on a continuous rope that's about 20 feet long and must be cut into bun size at the restaurant by hand. Today, some arrive packaged the proper length. Either way, the meat is put in a split-top hot dog bun.

Order it "all the way." First the wiener is slapped with mustard. Then it's covered in a spicy, ground beef sauce that may or may not include tomato sauce, Worcestershire Sauce, chili powder and cinnamon. (Every New York System has its own recipe.) Finally, it is topped with finely chopped onions and a sprinkle of celery salt.  

What goes with a wiener? Only one thing will do and that is coffee milk, another iconic R.I. treat.

Bruce Kraig, a food historian and author of "Hot Dog: A Global History" and "Man Bites Dog: Hot Dog Culture in America" says it's what you put on the hot dogs that attracts people. That's how America came to have regional styles of hot dogs.

“You can tell the story of America through hot dogs. There are probably other things you could use, other objects or icons, but I think hot dog is a really good one.”

More: How the sausage is made: History of hot dogs from pushcart to ballpark

The history

Ninety-nine years ago, the Original New York System introduced the hot wiener at 424 Smith St., in Providence, staking its claim as Rhode Island's signature fast food. Gust Pappas founded New York System first from a cart, then the Smith Hill spot, and was succeeded by his son Ernie, then grandson Gus.

As for how the name "New York System" came to represent a strictly Rhode Island phenomenon of hot wieners, Gus Pappas said that it was a homage to the city from his grandfather. When he migrated from Greece, he went through Ellis Island. The fast pace appealed to him."

"He was in such awe of New York City, he just wanted to keep a part of it with him," he said. "You can imagine him coming from a small Greek town into the city.

They started spelling wieners as weiners, a more authentic German spelling, said Pappas. But he believes it got Americanized to wiener.

How there came to be more than one New York System was explained by a 1940 photo. It pictured five men, including Ernie Pappas, who all worked together at New York System that summer. One by one, the other four went out and opened their own New York Systems. Trademark protection was not considered back then.

Diners came in for lunch, dinner and early morning bites after a night of dancing.

The restaurant on Smith Hill is now under different owners and closed, though they say it's temporary.

There's a similar origin story for Olneyville New York System, which has been in the Providence square since 1946. That's when Anthony Stavrianakos, a Greek immigrant, opened the restaurant with his son Nicholas serving hot wieners and a luncheon menu. In 1953, it moved to its present location at 20 Plainfield St. The family anglicized their name along the line.

Its served mill workers. Olneyville was said to be as busy as Times Square thanks to the mills that produced jewelry. People ate when they had lunch and dinner breaks, and then they returned to socialize after work.

Today, new owners Heritage Restaurant operate both the Olneyville restaurant and the Cranston location at 1012 Reservoir Ave. Fourth-generation owners Greg Stevens and Stephanie Turini retired.

The stories

In 2014, the James Beard Foundation recognized Olneyville New York System as one of America's Classics, which honors "restaurants that have timeless appeal and are beloved for quality food that reflects the character of their community."

"A lot of restaurants change with time and keep up with trends," Stevens said at the time. "Here, we work with keeping it the same. When I ask someone if it tastes like they remember, yes is the best answer I can get."

After her 2021 wedding reception at Harbor Lights in Warwick ended, Chantelle Ward ordered three hot wieners, all the way, as is her habit. Only this time, she dined in her wedding dress and with her groom, Seth Oyler, by her side. It was 1 a.m. 

"It was a beautiful day that ended in a beautiful way," said the bride, who grew up in Pawtucket. "Those wieners bring back so many memories," she said. "Because my father brought me there every week growing up, just like his father brought him."

Ward's memories were made all the more poignant because her father, Michael Ward, died unexpectedly just months before her wedding. Hot wieners connected her to him that day.

There may be no more epic hot wiener story of craving than 2003's "The Dogs of War." It started with a letter sent to Gus Pappas at the Original New York System.

"I'm Staff Sergeant Robert Taylor of the 115th Military Police Company, Rhode Island National Guard. We are currently doing duty in Iraq and have been here since February. One of our members had a copy of the ProJo, dated July 2, sent to him and it was noticed in the food section, an article about the New York System Restaurant. As you may imagine, there were about 120 native Rhode Islanders that became totally hungry for a taste of home.

"It is my fondest wish and hope, that if you could find it in your hearts, if possible, to send some wieners to some soldiers, in order to remind of us of home and to keep our morale up during this difficult time. If there is anything we can do for you, please respond via letter to the below address.

"Thank you in advance, SSG Robert Taylor."

Along with the letter, Taylor sent a photo from Iraq of the Providence Journal Food section taped to a military vehicle and picturing the much-desired hot wieners. He and Specialist Scott McCain are also in the picture.

Pappas was ready to ship 500 to the base, but could not do so logistically. Dry ice, in which Pappas would have packed the wieners, couldn't protect the perishable food for the estimated three-week trip from the U.S. to Iraq. Though cargo planes regularly leave from bases around the U.S, food and mail can't be the first priority.

But the soldiers had all-beef hotdogs and buns, as well as ground beef, onions and cooking oil. So Pappas sent the spice blend, which was dry and nonperishable, and the soldiers mixed up their own fresh batches. And when they came back to R.I., they were all invited to the restaurant for fresh hot wieners.

That taste of home is now available nationwide as Olneyville New York System ships Hot Wiener Kits on Goldbelly, the online marketplace.

 

Jennifer Borresen contributed the interactive graphic to this story. She is a graphic journalist at USA TODAY, specializing in explanatory graphics and illustrations in various fields, including politics, science, weather and entertainment.

Where to find hot wieners

  

Where to find hot wieners

Olneyville New YorkSystem in Providence and Cranston are not the only places to get a hot wiener. Here are 11 other diners and restaurants to get your fix.

Wein-O-Rama, 1009 Oaklawn Ave, Cranston. 

New York Lunch, 8 Main St., Woonsocket.

Sam's New York System, 1031 Mineral Spring Ave., Pawtucket. 

Sam's New York System, 6 Freeborne St. (Sandy Lane), Warwick.

Rod's Grille, 308 Child St., Warren. 

M&M New York System, 361 Waterman Ave., East Providence. 

Jesse's II New York System, 2338 Plainfield Pike, Johnston.

Hash N.Y. System, 656 Main St., Coventry.  

J & T's Breakfast and Lunch, 98 George Waterman Rd., Johnston.

Ferrucci’s New York System, 1246 Main St., West Warwick.  

Moonlight House of Wieners, 32 Rathbun St., Woonsocket.  

How the sausage is made: History of hot dogs from pushcart to ballpark

Jennifer Borresen contributed the interactive graphic to this story. She is a graphic journalist at USA TODAY, specializing in explanatory graphics and illustrations in various fields, including politics, science, weather and entertainment.